Kiowa Tribal Land, 2nd Marijuana Bust–Part III

Following Sean 6of6
October 1, 2010
If you grow hemp to make hemp products, can they charge you with growing marijuana?
October 1, 2010
saycoin72 asked:

PART 3 of 4: The second “Marijuana Plant” bust to take place on Kiowa Tribal Lands within a two week period in nearby Kiowa County, OK. This operation took place on the “Satepeahtaw” property in the late afternoon of “Sunday, August 22, 2010” approximately 21/2 miles WNW of Carnegie, OK which is located in just across the countyline into Kiowa County. I was informed of this operation by my brother who monitors police transmissions on a Bearcat scanner. Due to the Movie Maker Program being inoperative I am forced to post “raw” footage. This will be a “four part” series showing what occurred on Sunday, August 22, 2010 west of Carnegie, OK just across the county-line into Kiowa County, OK. According to a Bureau of Indian Affairs officer who I met near the site of the operation this recent marijuana crop site was on or near the same site as a previous marijuana crop bust that occurred in 2009. Obviously, Mexican Cartel marijuana growers have no compunction regarding where they grow their marijuana crops and will even re-plant their illegal crops on Indian lands. It wasn’t learned if any Mexican grower suspects were arrested in this lastest marijuana plant bust on Indian Trust Property in SW Oklahoma. Personally, I am concerned because these illegal activities which show a distinct disregard for Kiowa property and ironically are very close to local Kiowa historic, cultural, and sacred sites. Over the decades the historic Kiowa have had an extremely difficult undertaking to


  1. saycoin72 says:

    Very good point BUT it all goes back to the question of “tribal sovereignty” which is defined in the numerous treaties that the US made with the tribes. The “powers that be” in US congress aren’t stupid and they know what it means to recognized tribal sovereignty. It is not unlike “diplomatic immunity” where a person carries their sovereignty around with them whereever they go. The powers that be know that they cannot have this situation internally within this country.

  2. smileymann2 says:

    not trying to be disrespectfull and i could understand why would you let people that took your land come on the land you do have

  3. saycoin72 says:

    I understand the choise that you would make on the issue if your land. However, for me I would not only say “no” but “hell no”. Remember Geo. Carlin’s picnic routine? “Hey, can you move over, they’re bringing the stuff.” “Can you move over a little more, they’re bringing the stuff”.–It’s encroachment of what little land we still have left. Now it seems people feel we should be liberal and allow another form of encroachment.—Entrenched sociological ethos are difficult to change.

  4. smileymann2 says:

    @saycoin72 it is your land im just saying if it was my land i would let them as long as they dint disrespect my property

  5. saycoin72 says:

    Unfortunately, in this society there are sociological ethos called “attitudes”. At sacred sites there are images called “pictographs”. These sacred images are marred by modern “graffiti”. When a person sees this he/she is compelled to do the same thing. It is called “graffiti begating graffiti”……..If illegal activities such as shown in the vids is allowed to continue attitudes become more sociologically indifferent and disrespectful to traditional native values. UNACCEPTABLE.