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tops mostly all pinched.. 17 days from the time seeds came above ground. 24 hour lights, 1 100W MH, 2 70W HPS, 1 175W MV and one 65 W compact fluorescent. Fluorescent is going to be the motherplant light soon as sex shows. only fertlized once and added some ferilizer sticks to each pot. Used regular dirth/earth from my yard, it was basically the rotten layer under a big pine tree, so lots of compost it basically is. Also, jthis is just regular bag seeds. seeds from some people out of their bough